So what's the big #TODO?

  • I'll try to express what i'm talking about in english for the few people that sometimes come across the Forum.
    This Text maybe sounds like an attack, but it isn't.
    Idc what was tbh. i just want to make some stuff clear.
    So read to the end before u gogo.

    So first of all to describe who i am, to those who forgot me or don't even know me;
    Oyo, i am a EW player from long ago.
    Our guilds NakedHeroes/Rape were the dominating faction on this Server.
    It was a fun place to be and somehow we managed to gather a small mass together with a lot of socializing.
    So all of us were somewhat working together in getting and keeping people.

    It's so long, that even the record numbers with 49ppl online at the same time, are prolly from that time aswell.
    idk, i don't even remember how the server was back then - Also in terms of getting items etc.

    So why did i leave back then?
    Basically; This Server had an incompetent developer who invented a Boss-Instance system, which didn't work properly.
    It basically did everything it was supposed todo, but there were no Cooldowns.
    So me and the guild thought "Uhhh fuck, cool" and raided the shit out of Freya.
    Since there was no big introduction to how the System was supposed to exactly work, we didn't know shit about any cooldowns.
    So we took it as it was served and raided. :poggers:


    Then out of the nowhere, guildies got banned while raiding.
    All of us were like "wtf?" - Some of them Permanent (IF i remember correct, Don't mark my words here!) and some Temporary.

    This basically was our moment to say "Ok Fuck this shit."
    TL;DR Dev fucked up things, We were not briefed about stuff in depth, and we got banned for it.
    After we got banned the server died pretty quick since we were somewhat the majority of the server and even when not all of us were perma banned, it was hillarious that people got banned for that atall.


    - So this is the Story of EW 1.0.

    So a few days i came back just to check out how it is going, and i am.... shocked?

    I have a few things in mind that you should find answers to asap.

    Lineage 2 is not a "dying" game, it has it's core players that keep up to that game very hard, and that's cool.
    But L2 is by far no hyper-game anymore. It's glance time is over for years already. So the L2 p-Server jungle is just getting harder and harder.

    So here to my questions:


    + No Wipe?
    When i came back, i saw all my stuff still laying around on my characters.
    That is in theory ofc nothing bad but if i remember correct, the gameplay mechanics of this Server have changed. Atleast i can't remember how i had to raid/craft equipment on B/A/S/S80+ grades, and i still own my vesper stuff for example.

    So while players today have to grind for it hardcore, i got it gifted into my anus if i remember correct.
    I hope i don't mix stuff up here, but i really couldn't remember farming or crating any of those.

    Keeping that in mind: Don't you think it would be a good and fair idea to wipe the server long time ago?

    + No AFK Farm?
    Yes yes i know. Mimimi dis no Mobile game mimimimi.
    I'm no friend of AFK-Farming aswell, but in fact it can make a big difference in how populated the server looks.
    If you see a server with 3k people on it, you don't really think there are 3k people playing rn, don't you?
    There might be 200-300 AFK shops, and tons of AFK-Farms. So let there be maybe 300/400/500 players actively playing.
    But a Server feels WAY MORE alive then.

    Imagine joining a Server and you see 3 People online. You're instantly like "Nope fuck this"
    But if there are 20 People online where maybe 5 are active players - Who fucking cares?
    The Impression for new users is completely different and you have a lot more chances to make them take a look on the server atleast

    And Multiboxing without AFK Farming is basically 90% nonsense. So no need to push the numbers, if there is no afk farming.


    + Changing the Chronicle?
    So yeah... That's a matter of taste tbh.
    High Five is a very cool chronicle as i personally think.
    The only Tank you need is DE-Tank, the only Raid party your need is Titan Squad, and maybe a little healer between.
    That's basically the Chronicle in full TL;DR.
    Almost every server had his glorious High5 time and it's an oversaturated thing.

    Everybody has h5. There is no need for new good h5 servers because people don't care as much as they did back then (in my opinion)

    So maybe it would be an idea to take a look on other chronicles (like L2Classic for example)
    L2Classic has a lot of new things, but it seems like a fresh-kind of L2.


    + What am i supposed todo here?
    When i joined the Server and all of the goodies like a good GM-Shop for example are missing, i ask myself "Wtf am i doing here?"
    Right now it feels like retail h5 lineage with the addition of an NPC buffer.
    Okay fine - But retail only makes sense with players playing it.
    I am not talking about 2 or 3 player.
    I am talking about maybe 30, 40.
    Why so much?
    Retail L2 consists of Grinding, Crafting, Raiding and a lot of PvP.
    Let's say the Server is starting with 5 People.
    That's the absolute fucking minimum for retail play and even then only of they work together.
    With 5 People you'd have somewhat of a minimum for a good raid party in higher levels with shit-equipment. (And even then prolly only with multibox)
    And who of those 5 people want's to craft everything? Who wants to Spoil everything? And where is my pvp? :(
    There are too much jobs to fulfill for a almost non-existent playerbase - And unless those people are tryhard af, they will not give a shit and just look for the next server.
    And let's say there are 5 people that are tryhard like that - Now you have a new Server Member joining the Server, checking it out and realize that the World is absolutely empty.
    Some might ignore that fact - But when it comes to the point of "Fuck, how do i get my gear done now?" it's getting critical and 99% of player won't hesitate leaving instantly when they realize that.
    So those 5 Tryhards can work on everything, but what is the newcomer doing that can't see the Sense of his existence on the Server now and isn't much socializing because he's maybe not the guy that's going like "Heya Folks, Gib gear!"?


    When i saw the Server in that state it was one thing where i was like "uh okay? i don't care about player count tbh."
    But when i joined the Server i was stunned how..... Crapped the Gameflow was. There simply is no game flow.
    Not on 1.0, nor on 2.0.

    + Copy Copy Copy
    So right now the Server just feels like a 0815 basic L2jserver package without anything done to it.
    Maybe a message modified here, the client modified there - But nothing what makes me personally think "Fuck, that system is cool - i wanna play here"
    Give me 10 Minutes and i have 1:1 the same Server on my PC as it is right now on EW.
    That's not even an attack, but it just feels like absolutely nobody cares about anything.
    The only not retail thing is the Community Board with a Crappy GMShop etc.
    But that board is also just a cheap copy. Saw it on other servers aswell.

    + Staff with 0 transparency and no plans atall.
    So here is the thing. Shadow - i know you for a while already. I'd say for years already? Idk.
    We never had that much contact after NakedHeroes/Rape left the server because of the ban. But when we were here, we were pretty good with each other.
    U're a nice guy and i know that u've in mind to make the perfect L2Server, and i'm happy 'bout that. No doubts.
    But in my opinion you're working too much on the image of the server instead of the gameplay.

    I can just speak for myself and some of the NakedHeroes/Rape's back then but:
    We did not care how crappy the website looks.
    We even gave less shits to a forum.
    We as players did not need a fancy website, a fancy forum or a fancy modded client to have fun.
    It was the gameplay and the socializing that kept us here.
    You had some people onboard that managed to socialize with new players.
    Socializing new players made them stay, like me for example.
    Just throwing a server out and saying "here u go" wont make a server atall.

    Don't Focus on your Website too much. Don't Focus on modding a client. Don't focus on making a fancy updater.
    Focus on making a plan for the Gameflow.
    How is the server going to work? What are the players supposed todo? How can Solo and Guilds have fun and have new stuff todo?
    We all raided hundrets and thousands of times, give us a new thrill to it.

    You have a few players that get onto the server once in a while, and some that stay if i saw correct.

    They're here in good hope. Use it.

    If you need it, make a recruitment/socializing perk of team members that work as undercover-moderators ingame or whatever.
    You have possibilities. Don't let it slack that easy.



    I have tons of stuff that i could critizise even more, but i think that would be it. Otherwise i'd have to conquer the forum.

    Shared thoughts are great and whatever you do: In my opinion you have to scrap the complete project you have at the moment, and make your mind about a good concept from scratch. Don't recycle the same high5 every time. GM shops aren't everything.

  • Shadow

    Hat das Thema geschlossen.